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]
,
BEWARE SPAMMERS (& ISPs who connect them):  Your ISP will put you OFFLINE,  or go broke.
The OLD forum is still onsite  [but you can no longer write to it].  You will notice that it has been bastardized.  His IP is in Hungary, so he will probably not read this but go straight to the OLD forum.   His frustration as he tries to write to it may cause him to break his computer or keyboard.  I will soon remove the garbage from that page.   All REAL COMMENTS will remain there always.  You may wish to START A THREAD in the NEW FORUM and copy your original contribution  into that new thread.

from the SITE administrator: Russell Mathews BCom BSc LLB BA:
   

NEW EXTENDED POLICY
;
  Future comment is not limited to just JUDGES. ANY LEGAL ISSUE in the USA is valid content.  This could be any LEGAL ISSUE.  It could be a problem with a neighbour, over a fence, or a problem with a LAWYER, or CITY OFFICIAL.  If you have any legal issue, just start a new THREAD.  I believe the INTERNET is the way to resolve legal issues, rather than the courts.  The INTERNET  is very powerful; for little people to fight back against the 'powerful'.  It will empower you.  
 
You are welcome to vent any legal issue here.  You may even wish to build your own FREE simple website, and link to it from this FORUM. There really is no catch.  It is totally free.  [Hard to believe on the internet.] It is limited to 50MB but it will take a lot of writing by you to fill that.  There are no pop-up ads. It is all you need while you are learning. 
 
We already have very high Google and Yahoo rankings and that should improve even more.   That should ensure you have very good google rankings for your new site, very quickly, within four days. [It took me two months for Google to index my first site from August 2006.]   If you have any problems, contact me.

A point to note is that the SERVER for this site is NOT IN THE USA.  

If the judge of your interest is NOT from US of A [United States of America] then choose:

  if from:
  * the UK [United Kingdom, Great Britain, England, Scotland, Wales and
             Northern Ireland] proceed to    
http://RateUKJudges.com 
 
* New Zealand proceed to  http://RateNZJudges.com 
 
* Australia   Proceed to   http://RateAustralianJudges.com 
 
* Canada     Proceed to     http://RateCanadianJudges.com 
 
*  India    Proceed to    http://RateIndianJudges.com

 *  for ALL OTHER judges of ALL OTHER JURISDICTIONS
 
Proceed to 
http://RateAllJudges.com 
       
 
 [We will progressively establish sites for EVERY OTHER JURISDICTION,  so
 LET US KNOW which ones we should establish first].

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FORUM for Nambour & Sunshine_Coast, Qld Australia
but SPAMMERS BEWARE

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These SEVEN RatingJudges websites, initialy, will permit people in ALL PARTS of the world to rate any judge they wish.   ALL judges will be included, from Judges of the highest courts in the each respective Country [or Federation as in the European Union], to the least significant Administrative Tribunal.  "Judges" will include not only judges but also magistrates, and decision makers for Administrative and Disciplinary Tribunals  This will be implemented by a number of different websites; SEVEN initially.   There will be some for individual countries such as http://RateUSJudges.com  http://RateUKJudges.com  http://RateNZJudges.com  http://RateAustralianJudges.com  http://RateCanadianJudges.com  http://RateIndianJudges.com  as well as the Universal http://RateAllJudges.com  website where each additional country will have its own Sub-domain website.  This means that any judge, anywhere in the world, can be rated for their good or evil.

Rather than withhold these sites while we develop the software,  we shall release each domain  with limited functionality.  This limited functionality will consist of a FORUM for each domain  which will be incorporated into our full site as just one of the Forums, when our full site is operational.  This forum will permit users initially, to post messsages to a different forum on each site [for each country or federation], complimenting or criticizing a particular judge
, named by them.  In the subsequent fully functional version, users will need to Register as members of the website to post comments or rate a judge, but this will not be necessary initially.  

If none of the six listed domain names viz: 
http://RateUSJudges.com  http://RateUKJudges.com  http://RateNZJudges.com  http://RateAustralianJudges.com  http://RateCanadianJudges.com  http://RateIndianJudges.com  are relevant to you, please place a blog message on  http://RateAllJudges.com  and we will establish a website with a blog for that country or jurisdiction.

As to the content that you place in the blog, I wish to make the suggestion that you moderate your language.  Any judge who has an adverse mention on our site will not be pleased and that may excite others to also comment upon that judge.  Now you may note my comments about one particular Jeffrey Ernest John Spender of the Federal Court of Australia.  I have not reserved my language there.  That is because this is my website, and I KNOW HE IS CRIMINAL.   I have borne the brunt of his criminal acts.   Those comments have been published for a long time but he has taken no action.   That is because that is the TRUTH.   I have had the personal experience.  There is a benefit to me if he decided to sue me.   I will have his criminal conduct aired in public and there will be, besides Spender, other people who will dislike what transpires in public.  Some of those other people are in senior positions.  It would open a veritable hornets' nest.  I KNOW THAT.   This was much of the motivation for my starting my websites.   Now, if your have a similar certainty that a particular judge [or other person] is guilty of criminal conduct and who would not want it aired in public or has associates who would not want it aired in Public, then IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, CONSIDER  STARTING YOUR OWN WEBSITE.   IT CAN BE VERY REWARDING AND SATISFYING. It can be TOTALLY FREE.   I would refer you to my page titled:
How to build your own simple website for FREE.  GOOGLE and other SEARCH ENGINES will index simple websites; [and I can accelerate the process from TWO MONTHS to just FOUR DAYS: ask me]. You will be able to have it hosted for FREE, as at 20080404, if it is under 20Mb in size and has less than 50Mb of Data Transfer per month; with the TOP host, Servers AustraliaYou will be able to have it hosted for FREE, as at 20080404, if it is under 20Mb in size and has less than 50Mb of Data Transfer per month; with the TOP host, Servers Australia.   This means that while you are feeling your way and still learning, it will cost you NOTHING.   I just wish I had known this when I was starting off.   Otherwise, you can have it hosted for just a few dollars per month.  Servers Australia will offer you a full site without pop-up advertisements or any advertising restrictions.  I  have had experience with "FREE"  sites which are just a con, for the promoter to place java script on your site, on every one of your .html pages, to make money for themselves and wreck your site for your visitors/viewers.   Servers Australia will not do this.  Servers Australia are genuine.
  You may even consider contacting me through my PHP Contact Form, and I would be very likely to host it for you for free.

STRUCTURE of GLOBAL INTERNET SELF HELP JUSTICE NETWORK, for individual citizens cheated by CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS, EVIL CORPORATIONS and EVIL INDIVIDUALS, in any country.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.

Self Help Justice NETWORK of Bulletin Boards/FORUMS.  See specifics of the network below,
 
Self Help Justice for GLOBAL use.  We are developing this NETWORK, so let us know of any URGENT requests for particular FORUMS.
 
GLOBAL INTERNET SELF HELP JUSTICE NETWORK [GISH Justice Network] 
  GISH Justice Network/FORUM/
for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the CORRUPT People involved: Global Shonks and Shysters Exposed: Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks.
 
Shonks and Shysters Exposed/FORUM/  for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any Judges or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.

  Rate US judges/forum/   for YOUR INPUT.        
  Rate UK judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
  Rate Australian Judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
  Rate Canadian Judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
  Rate NZ judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
  Rate Indian Judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
and for judges in all other jurisdictions:  Advise us your jurisdiction and we will form the FORUM for you:
  Rate All Judges/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.

SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
Advise us of any Special Interest Group who would like a FORUM.
  BEWARE of rspca and OTHER ANIMAL ACTIVITIST/FORUM/
for YOUR INPUT.
  Tertiary Students Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT; request a FORUM for your university.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
  Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
 
  The FORUMS
Global Disability Network AND http://BEWARErspca.com/forum/ are related in that the rspca tend to pick "easy" targets, which include disabled people and others suffering discrimination and attack, such as people of a different ethnic origin, elderly people, and single women, and the older the woman the greater the liklihood of rspca attack
    

STRATA of FORUMS
 for different parts of the world

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK for UK cases.
 
Self Help Justice for UK use.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  http://GlobalInternetSelfHelpJusticeNetwork.com/ 
  http://selfhelpjustice.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3 for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the UK People involved: UK Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
    Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in the UK.
 
http://shonksandshysters.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4   for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any UK Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  http://RateUKjudges.com/
forum/   for YOUR INPUT.
  

SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
  http://bewarerspca.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
for YOUR INPUT.
  UK Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
   Tertiary Students Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 

STRATUM of the Justice NETWORK  for  USA cases.
 
Self Help Justice for US use.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  http://GlobalInternetSelfHelpJusticeNetwork.com/ 
  http://selfhelpjustice.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4
for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the Corrupt US People involved: US Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
    Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in the US.
 
http://shonksandshysters.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3 for YOUR INPUT. 
 
  Any adverse Details of any US Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  http://RateUSjudges.com/
forum/ for YOUR INPUT.
  

SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
 
Anti-Animal Activitists FORUM for the USofA for YOUR INPUT.
  US Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
  USofA University Concerns: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT
 

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK for Canadian cases/matters.
 
Self Help Justice for Canadians.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  Global Internet Self Help Justice Network 
  Self Help Justice Forum for Canadians for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the Canadian People involved:
 
Canadian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
  Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in
Canada.
 
Canadian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:   for YOUR INPUT.
 
  Any adverse Details of any
Canadian Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.    
  http://Rate
Canadianjudges.com/forum/   for YOUR INPUT.
  

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
   Opposition to Canada's draconian 'animal cruelty' legislation
  for YOUR INPUT.
   Canadian Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
   Tertiary Institutions/Universities Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
   Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
   Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK for Indian cases/matters.
 
Self Help Justice for Indians.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  Global Internet Self Help Justice Network 
  Self Help Justice Forum for Indians for YOUR INPUT.

   
Details of the Indian People involved: Indian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
    Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in India.
   
Indian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:   for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any Indian Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  http://RateIndianJudges.com/
forum/   for YOUR INPUT.
  

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
   
Indian FORUM for the Rights of Animals and their Carers for YOUR INPUT.
    Indian Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
    Tertiary Institutions/Universities Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
    Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
    Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK for Australian cases/matters.
 
Self Help Justice for Australians.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  http://GlobalInternetSelfHelpJusticeNetwork.com/ 
  http://selfhelpjustice.com/forum/ for Australians for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the Australian People involved: Australian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
    Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in the UK.
  
Australian Shonks and Shysters Exposed:   for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any UK Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  http://RateAustralianJudges.com/
forum/   for YOUR INPUT.
  

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
  BEWARE rspca in Australia
for YOUR INPUT.
  Australian Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
   Tertiary Institutes/Universities Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK for New Zealand cases/matters.
 
Self Help Justice for New Zealanders.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  Global Internet Self Help Justice Network 
  Self Help Justice FORUM for New Zealand for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the NZ People involved:
  New Zealand's Shonks and Shysters Exposed:
  Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in New Zealand.
 
New Zealand's Shonks and Shysters Exposed:   for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any UK Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  Rate NZ judges
forum/   for YOUR INPUT.
  

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
 
New Zealand FORUM for the Rights of Animals and their Carers for YOUR INPUT.
  New Zealand Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
   Tertiary Institutes/Universities Globally: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [eg Toastmasters] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 

STRATUM of Justice NETWORK to CRUSH the EU: cases/matters.
 
Self Help Justice for UK use.  BUT BEWARE, spammers and the ISPs of Spammers.
  http://GlobalInternetSelfHelpJusticeNetwork.com/ 
  http://selfhelpjustice.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=9 for YOUR INPUT.

 
Details of the EU People involved: EU Shonks and Shysters [FRAUDSTERS] Exposed:
    Exposing Shyster lawyers and Con-men Shonks in the EU.
 
EU Shonks and Shysters [FRAUDSTERS] Exposed:   for YOUR INPUT.
 
Any adverse Details of any EU Judges, Magistrates or 'Commissioners', or Tribunal 'Decision Makers'.
    
  http://ratealljudges.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
  for YOUR INPUT.
  

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
  http://bewarerspca.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10
for YOUR INPUT.
  EU Section of the Global Disability Network for YOUR INPUT.
  Tertiary Students Globally WISHING to CRUSH the EU: a la Facebook for YOUR INPUT.
  Global organisations with Dubious reputation [Toastmasters & OTHERS] for YOUR INPUT.
  Promotion  of Nambour & Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. for YOUR INPUT.
 





My logo, my TRADEMARK, is the MRI of my skull, showing gross assymetry,aka DEFORMITY = ugliness and target of bullies.The HAIG REPORT: the EVIDENCE My logo, my TRADEMARK, is the MRI of my skull, showing gross assymetry,aka DEFORMITY = ugliness and target of bullies.

       Join The "Judges are Corrupt" [WorldWide] Network.  [members' links]

Links to AustLawPublish Journals re the corrupt judge
Jeffrey Ernest John Spender This will be the home page of the JACWWN.  People in each country who are fighting corruption in their courts, will be able to support and gain support from, all people and groups in other countries who have a similar fight.  Where corruption may be able to squash an anti corruption person or group in one jurisdiction, if the support extends internationally,  it should be far more difficult to defeat any anti-corruption person or group.  

If you believe exposing corrupt judges is the first step towards improving our system of  government and law please post a meassage.

You may like to contact me with the idea of having your jurisdiction's "chapter" represented with a page on this site linked to this page.


My lawyer friend Doug Schafer of Tarcoma, Washington State has exposed a corrupt judge in Washington.  That judge was removed from the bench as a direct result, but then the Washington State Supreme Court, struck Doug off the role of attorneys for six months for exposing the corrupt judge.   See Doug's page.

Our legal system in Australia, USA, Britain, Canada and New Zealand, plus in other jurisdictions, is so prone to corruption, by its very nature.  In fact, our government of the three aspects: executive, parliament/congress, and judiciary is liable to endemic corruption due to our amorphous legal system. 

As an academic, my research interests are directed towards eliminating the scope for corruption in our legal system.   I do not pretend that my motivation is anything grandious. My motivation is self-interest.  This is my way of fighting back against all the scum who have bullied and cheated me my whole life just because I look abnormal and ugly due to a mis-shapen/asymmetric/deformed skull.   On the continium, I guess I am somewhere between very ugly and freak.   I now have a long bushy beard and wear a hat most of the time, even indoors.  Now, I suffer discrimination more for looking like an unkept bum than for my freakish looks.  I have chosen the one that involves me in less work. It has just evolved over time.  Most people in my predicament end up in goal if they fight back or just accept it and shrink away and die a bum on the streets.  I have the luxury of a well above average IQ, which correlates well with intelligence.  My IQ is well above the genius threshhold.

[members' pages and links]
Shaun O'Connell, a UK member of the The "Judges are Corrupt" [WorldWide] Network
Ron Branson, a Californian member of the The "Judges are Corrupt" [WorldWide] Network






if from:
   * US of A [United States of America]
Proceed to 
http://RateUSJudges.com
  * the UK [United Kingdom, Britain, England, Scotland, Wales and
             Northern Ireland] proceed to    
http://RateUKJudges.com 
 
* New Zealand proceed to  http://RateNZJudges.com 
 
* Australia   Proceed to   http://RateAustralianJudges.com 
 
* Canada     Proceed to     http://RateCanadianJudges.com 
 
*  India    Proceed to    http://RateIndianJudges.com 

 
*  for ALL OTHER judges of ALL OTHER JURISDICTION
 
Proceed to 
http://RateAllJudges.com 
         [We will progressively establish sites for EVERY OTHER JURISDICTION,  so LET US KNOW which ones we should establish first].